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Post by webdominatrix on Apr 20, 2005 0:22:15 GMT -5
Right, that's exactly what I was saying. I'm Catholic like I'm Irish. BTW-WM, you got balls and I love them.  |
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Post by justsomeguy on Apr 20, 2005 13:53:57 GMT -5
I just skimmed the thread, you know, I'm supposed to be working...but Ratzinger isn't too progressive, time will tell if he'll keep with recent trends in the Church, but:
"In 1986 Ratzinger issued a letter to the Catholic Bishops in which he wrote that homosexuality was a ‘tendency’ towards an ‘intrinsic moral evil’. A few years later, in 1992, he rejected the notion of human rights for gays, stressing that their civil liberties could be ‘legitimately limited’. He followed up by remarking that ‘neither the church nor society should be surprised’ if ‘irrational and violent reactions increase’ when gays demand civil rights. Not a man to mince his words, Ratzinger urgently set to work to ferret out gay-sensitive clergy.
The good Cardinal also extended the Papal principle of ‘infallibility’ by declaring that the ordination of women was impossible because John Paul II said it was so. Ditto for the use of the word ‘priest’ by the Anglican Church: not on, said Joe, because Leo XIII in 1896 said it wasn’t allowed.
The Cardinal is also not happy mixing religion and politics – at least not the kind of politics which suggests the Church has an obligation to assist the poor in their fight for justice. So he set out to muzzle outspoken ‘liberation’ theologians including Brazil’s charismatic Leonardo Boff. He also replaced the now-deceased Archbishop of Recife, Dom Helder Camara, with Monsignor José Cardosa – a conservative right-winger – and warned the ex-Bishop of Chiapas in Mexico, Samuel Ruiz, to preach the Gospel ‘in its integrity without Marxist interpretations’.
As if that weren’t enough, the ever-busy Cardinal has used his privileged take on the Truth to set back inter-faith tolerance and religious pluralism a few decades. In 1997 Ratzinger annoyed Buddhists by calling their religion an ‘autoerotic spirituality’ that offers ‘transcendence without imposing concrete religious obligations’. And Hinduism, he said, offers ‘false hope’; it guarantees ‘purification’ based on a ‘morally cruel’ concept of reincarnation resembling ‘a continuous circle of hell’. The Cardinal predicted Buddhism would replace Marxism as the Catholic Church’s main enemy this century."
anyway Fox, he was also drafted into the German army during WWII, deserted and became an American POW. like something a mutual older woman we know makes the mistake of...not all German soldiers during WWII were Nazi's.
the hell do I know anyway, I'm a fucking nihilist.
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Post by webdominatrix on Apr 20, 2005 14:21:12 GMT -5
"No, Donnie these men are nihilist, it's okay!" Great movie, nice pull Cracker.
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Post by TheMadHatter on Apr 20, 2005 21:07:08 GMT -5
I just skimmed the thread, you know, I'm supposed to be working...but Ratzinger isn't too progressive, time will tell if he'll keep with recent trends in the Church, but: "In 1986 Ratzinger issued a letter to the Catholic Bishops in which he wrote that homosexuality was a ‘tendency’ towards an ‘intrinsic moral evil’. A few years later, in 1992, he rejected the notion of human rights for gays, stressing that their civil liberties could be ‘legitimately limited’. He followed up by remarking that ‘neither the church nor society should be surprised’ if ‘irrational and violent reactions increase’ when gays demand civil rights. Not a man to mince his words, Ratzinger urgently set to work to ferret out gay-sensitive clergy. |
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Post by Fox on Apr 20, 2005 21:21:04 GMT -5
Hey, "Justsomeguy" what possible mutual older woman are you talking about? HaHaHa! You know I'm kidding. You should have heard her when I once told her that a friend of mine took German in high school! Don't worry, I know that not all Germans were Nazis. The guy just concerns me is all. Will they ever get someone who is supportive of gay rights or a woman's right to choose? I'm not sure I see that happening anytime soon. But, anyway what the hell do I know - I was born a Jew?!
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Post by TheMadHatter on Apr 24, 2005 23:16:09 GMT -5
During his first week as pope, Benedict XVI firmly denounced legislation that advanced Thursday in Spain to allow same-sex couples to marry.
Speaking for the Vatican, an official called the bill "iniquitous."
"A law as profoundly iniquitous as this one is not an obligation, it cannot be an obligation," Cardinal Alfonso Lopez Trujillo, head of the Pontifical Council on the Family, told an Italian newspaper. "One cannot say that a law is right simply because it is law."
He added that, if the law passes, municipal officials who are Catholic should refuse to perform nuptials for same-sex couples.
"They should exercise the same conscientious objection asked of doctors and nurses against a crime such as abortion," he said.
Catholic bishops in Spain have also repeatedly condemned the bill, which was endorsed by the lower house of Parliament and is now headed for the Senate.
Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero and his Social party introduced the bill last October. If passed, Spain will become the third European country, after the Netherlands and Belgium, to grant same-sex couples the right to marry.
Polls suggest that nearly 80 percent of Spain's residents identify as Catholic, but half of them ignore church teachings.
ugh...
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Post by webmistress on Apr 25, 2005 0:05:03 GMT -5
ugh is right!
so disapointing!
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